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Oh,
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oh, [Music]
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be anxious for nothing. Pray for everything.
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Let your requests be known [Music] by God.
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For peace will guard your heart
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forever. [Music] All right, Avita, you are connected, I
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think. Yes. Can you hear me? Yes. Oh, very good. Thank you for being here.
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Um so Avita well um thank you so much for being here Avita and thank you
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everyone else for joining. Um and if you have any questions uh yeah please for
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Alvita put them in the Q&A and then we'll bring them up when Alvida yeah or
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uh has a time for some questions. Um, but Avita, since you can't see the chats
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or the uh um reactions, um just know that there's uh 18 19 people in the room
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and they're excited to hear your story. And do we want to start in prayer, Jacob?
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Yes. Um yeah, let's let's start in prayer. Um God, thank you so much for
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this this time um for this, you know, for Avida to be here and to share her
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her vision and her her her story and reactions and thoughts. And uh Lord, I
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pray that it will be a blessing to those who are here. I pray that this will be an encouragement that is rich for us to
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experience and for us to share with others. And I pray that we will um yeah
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be able to be fully present and let distractions um bounce off during this time. And I pray this in your name,
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Jesus. Amen. All right, Avita, the floor is yours.
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Amen. May I request let's can we do this conversationally rather than me just
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talking a monologue. So if you'll give me a couple of questions that I can get
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a perspective and bring it back to you. Can we do it that way? Sure, you bet.
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Um, so, so Avita, what would you like to share with Princy Clinic directors? What
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would be something that comes to mind that you think would be helpful to those
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working um, as leaders in the pregnancy clinic space?
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The pregnancy care center space is so unique and and so wonderful. I'm 75
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years old and I've been in this particular phase of uh the go sharing
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the gospel and human dignity of advocacy since 1983 when I became a born again
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Christian. At that time abortion was legal in America completely from uh
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conception all the way through until the day of delivery and sometimes during
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delivery. Of course, we know a lot of that legally was ended when Ro v. Wayade came
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down. I was not one who thought Ro was here forever. I always thought it would
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go. And so about
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2010 or so, I began to join the community that would say, "Hey, let's
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get ready because one day Roby Way won't be here and people are going to keep their babies and there has to be someone
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who will care and who will help." Of course, that movement grew. And before
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Roie Wayade went away, there were more pregnancy care centers in America than
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abortion meals. It used to be the opposite before that. And so today's
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time we are finding parents, fathers and mothers, grandparents,
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communities who don't know what to do with all these babies. I want to be very
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transparent even with myself lately. When I travel, I'm on airplanes and
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everything all the time. There are car seats, parents with strollers, babies
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yelling on the planes and I know I would find myself becoming a little agitated
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and I would say or think, why don't they make those babies be quiet and God says,
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don't you dare. They kept those babies and you pray that the babies be calm and
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happy. So I said, okay, God, I can do that.
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Praise the Lord. So the job of the pregnancy care directors and centers now
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your biggest challenge still is to raise money and many of you don't want to take
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government assistance or help in the government communities right now
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uh there's a lot of work with DEI which funded transgender surgeries on minors
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which was helping with abortions and all that that's not happening anymore And I
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am and this is nonofficial statement. I am the senior advisor to the United
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States Department of Agriculture faith center. And so, but I can tell you that
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we are encouraging people of faith in every department of the United States government to our health community to
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support holy matrimony to support life from the womb to the tomb beyond to
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support people who have questions about sexuality without cutting off baby body
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parts and things. So there is some opportunity for the faith community to
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help uh pregnancy care centers in a way that was not there before. So your
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challenge of course is uh the laxis basical attitude. Oh wellie
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weight is gone. Our job is over. Forget about it. Let me go live my life. No you have that. You need to raise money. You
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still need to have the faith community participate with you. But it's not
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impossible. It's what is called an uphill climb. That's good. Um,
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Alvita, which which Bible passage or which Bible story speaks most clearly to
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this work that you have poured into when it comes to saving lives and speaking up for the unborn.
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The scripture always out of Deuteronomy 2's life so that you and your
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generations may live. It depends on which translation. So, uh, and then you
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know, speak out for those who can't speak for themselves certainly is one. There are several. And, uh, I like life
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from the womb to the tomb and beyond. There's one blood, one human race. No
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separate races. Uh, human dignity matters. Act 17:26, one blood. So, there
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are many, many scriptures, not just one for me. Oh, that's really good. Thank Thank you.
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Would you share more about that that phrase that I hear you say which is from
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the womb to the tomb? Where did that come from and can you explain in detail what you what that what that means to
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you? Dr. Johnny Hunter from an organization
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called life I forget it's L E A R N learn and Dr. Hunter was always safe
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from the womb to the tomb and then from Elizabeth Doyle when she leaves America
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I added a wound to the tomb and beyond. So life is important and I always would
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say I was with piece of life about I think 19 years or so. Um,
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and I would always say you you you've got to look at all the communities, all
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the ethnicities. You've got to help people not need to or think they need to have an abortion. So,
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what happens after the baby is here? So the womb of course and
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you know you know all the other controversial aspects of that having the
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babies now and they're conceived not with one man married to one woman
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and they have the sexual intimacy and they get pregnant and have a baby. You've got other situations where we
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have babies now. And so all of that has to be considered as well. And I believe
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that womb to the tomb and beyond where will you spend eternity uh needs to be
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asked and to see all the babies as human beings members of the human race
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and God wants to have human dignity for everyone. I have a question.
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I have a question. So, do you think that there's still um issues with
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inequalities um with access to health care and socioeconomic barriers?
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And if so, how do pregnancy sitters like relate to those and help um bridge that
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gap? Absolutely. There are socioeconomic barriers. There always have been. There
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always will be. And that's where compassion comes in. And so we have to have people care about each other. I uh
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went to the post office today and it was so funny. Well, it wasn't. It wasn't.
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So, I saw this card and I decided to buy all the ones in that little part of the
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rack and the card said, "To get this card for you, I had to leave the house
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and interact with other humans. You're one of the few people who's worth all
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that." And so, will we leave our homes or our safety or our security, our sanctuaries,
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and go out and help others? That's always going to be a question. And so, the people in the post office were
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laughing at me because I first said, "Who did that? I have to get that one. I'm thinking about that." And then I
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said, "I need another one." And then I said, "Let me just get all of them." And the people were laughing. And so, one
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man said, "That's what the world has come to, isn't it?" And so it uh it was
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a moment and so I think I did a John 3:16 for God so loved the world in a
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different kind of a way and conveyed that same message. So there's always opportunity to serve and to help people
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care again, you know. Well, that's good. Um, so, so Alvida,
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with with Charlie Kirk being assassinated and that impacting so many people, how
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has that impacted you? And, you know, what are your thoughts today on on
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what's happened since Charlie Kirk being shot? You know, I put some things out on
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social media. I guess I am an instructor of sort. I know I am, as a matter of fact. And I put some things out cuz like
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the lady called me yesterday and she says, "You have been so good at defending Charlie Kurt. Can you help me
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because people in my church are angry because we did a tribute to Charlie." I said, "I I don't think I've defended
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Charlie. I uphold the gospel of Jesus Christ." Charlie loved Jesus, not afraid
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to call on Jesus in the public square and therefore has inspired the rest of
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us to do that. I said, "So, I would not necessarily think that's me defended
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Charlie, but then he should be remembered in that." But somebody else said about Charlie, they said,
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"Charlie's not in heaven because he defended Jesus. Charlie's in heaven
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because Jesus died for him and rose again for him." And I said, you know, that's a beautiful way to say that. So,
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Charlie, uh, I love Charlie dearly. Actually did know Charlie and his wife
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Erica. And uh so I did speak from that position, but I thought it was fabulous
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when Erica forgave the man who shot her husband. I thought that was amazing. I
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remember when my grandma was shot playing the organ at Eene the Baptist Church and this gunman comes in and
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shoots her and kills her and at least two other people. My granddaddy went to the jail and said, "Son, I forgive you.
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You took away the most precious gift I have on this earth. I forgive you." and he went on to minister the gospel of
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Jesus to that man. So forgiveness is a very important part. And now that
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Charlie is gone, it caused everybody to reflect. And if you really caught me on
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social media, I acknowledge that his love for Christ, his witness. And I did
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not think that Charlie would be mad at me if I asked the question. And that question was, "Where will you feel
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eternity? what will you spend I'm sorry what will you spend eternity and so that
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is how I've been talking about that I thought that was just absolutely horrible having had a dad who was
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assassinated a grandmother and uncle having survived an assassination
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attempted to myself I think is just horrible
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wow thank you for sharing on that so we have a question um from Fred Hagen he
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his question is with the abortion pill. There are more abortions now than before
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the proliferation of the abortion pill. Yet, I don't see a corresponding
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increase in client coming through the door of our pregnancy resource center.
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Have you seen andor heard about this occurring?
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Well, my friends and associates, I have a friend out uh in California talking
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the other day. up to get my board of directors because he has he's the director of the center and there are
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are opportunities more and more people are coming through their doors and I think he said they had to open another
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center as well. So it just I guess it depends on where you are if the community is still engaged and if
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the community still care and that's really going to always be the issue and
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if if the pregnancy care center in the urban or rural areas are are not
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spending as much time, energy, and maybe even money letting people know you are
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there. Come on in. We will help you. Then maybe that is some of what you're seeing. I'm not sure.
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Yeah. I I think it's because perhaps maybe partially because people are doing it do it yourself. Like they're ordering
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the pill from their house. They're taking the pill at their house and if there's a complication, they're going to
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the hospital. I think that's part of it. And then when they get to the hospital,
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it's not written up as an abortion. And I think and a lot of people we spent a
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lot of when I say we in the pro-life community with the pregnancy care centers and those who still protest at
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the center abortion meals. We are really doing more and more informing people of
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the terrible harm of misappropri and all of those things and what they do. You
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have that abortion at home by yourself. It is very traumatic.
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And then the baby you know, I don't even want to describe
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it too much, but uh the mother is having to
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bury her baby in water in the toilet. So, I think it's it's it's traumatic.
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It's terrible and it is still our responsibility to make sure that people know about the
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harm and be there to help. And also I imagine you at the pregnancy after women
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have had abortion sometimes they'll come in and and they need some trauma
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assistance and help and all of that. The ones who come in and they still abort
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the baby then they don't know what to do and come back. All of that there's a lot involved.
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That's good. I also think Jacob that um going back to that question too is that because they
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are so ingrained that these pills are just like aspirin, you know, get rid of a
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problem that they're not, you know, like before they would come in for um you
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know, pregnancy testing or ultrasounds or something like that and they're not they're just taking the pill because
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they don't think it's a big deal to take the pill. So I think we're seeing less of them in in that respect as well is
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that they they they're not looking to go get help. They're looking just take a pill to make everything go away.
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It used to be called a morning after pill and then it became what it is now. So we still have an obligation and a
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responsibility to inform, educate and activate the community.
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Yes. report it and also report these schools who are giving out those pills in the in
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the uh in the dispensary in the health area and let parents somebody needs to
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let the parents know you need to be checking for the girls who are uh in high school, middle and high school.
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I was going to say we had another um question but we don't. I do have another question here along those lines where you talked about you know education and
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so forth like that. Um you know based on your experience counseling women and families what like what programs or
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initiatives or ways to reach these women with life affirming um to help them make
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life affirming um choices um and then and then providing um support. What what
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do you think are the best like v venues or or ways to get the word out to be
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able to help these women to reach these women? what we are finding uh with the rem
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removal of some of the DEI initiatives and funding and replacing them and
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bringing them back to uh just having these schools and and you know the
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various opportunities for young people have these brochures and things in these
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in these areas where they can see visibly and get those brochures. encourage the younger women, the girls
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to go home and take them and talk to their parents about it, but make them available in the college areas as well,
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across the college campuses and everywhere
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also online. But you know the thing about I have been shadowbanned. I've been actually when
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Twitter was Twitter kicked off, I got back on because I had over a million followers then very low numbers that are
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coming back now. So I don't depend on social media but I neither do I fear AI.
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I do not fear social media because if you can reach one person who can reach 10 more who can reach 20 and all of that
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on social media. So we have to use everything every generation every decade
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every platform every genre. We have to get this information out. So flyers and
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pamphlets are not as popular anymore, but online you can get that out.
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Barcodes, you know, just have barcodes on um um what do you call those things
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on the side of the road? Uh QR codes. No, no, the you see that
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just like on the placer boards or the billboards. Yeah. And put QR code there. somebody's
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going down the street, they could catch it with their cell phone and get help. You know, there are many things that we
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can do as much as Okay, good points. Thank you.
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Uh Alvida, would you share uh your story and why, you know, why this issue is so
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important to you? I think I posted my mother's testimony.
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Dr. Ruth Barber King passed away 2024 in March. Um she wanted to abort me and my
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grandfather Martin was very pro life all his all of his life. He said we're not
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going to do that. They were going to talk her trying to talk her and her mother to get a DNC so she could finish
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college. She was in college and all women school that did not accept marriage or pregnancy. Okay. And so my
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granddaddy said you can't do that. That's an abortion cuz abortion was a leak of a deities were not.
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And he said, "That's a little girl. She has bright skin and bright red hair and she's going to bless many people." And I
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was born out exactly like that. And he was helping all types of people. And uh
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he just did a lot of marriages, a lot of baby rescues in his whole life. So I
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didn't know that, but I was raised as a Christian girl. And then uh I was a
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virgin when I got married because they taught me and guided me. But then when I
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got divorced, I changed. I you know went away from God and did the way I wanted
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to. But whatever uh before my first marriage, I ended up with an abortion.
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Right after that trying to reconcile, I had another abortion. Abortion became legal in 73. I had a an abortion in the
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doctor's office in 70 73. I had a legal abortion, had a miscarriage because of
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damage done to my body from the abolition. And then I just lived uh very all kinds
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of ways I would say until 1983 when I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal
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Lord and Savior. Confessed all my sins including the
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voices and some other things and became a voice for life. I have been saying a woman has the right to choose what she
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does on her body. The baby is not her body. Where is going to the baby? How can the baby survive if we murder our
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children? A woman has a right to choose what she does with her body. The baby's not her body. Where's the lawyer for the
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baby? I began to ask these types of questions. And the more I asked them, my
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very successful life as a politician, an actress,
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a millionaire, all this kind of went away because people didn't want me asking those questions. I didn't care. I
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said, "I want Jesus." And so over the next many years, I
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continued with that message. And I still have that same question today. A woman
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really does have the right to she doesn't the baby is not her body. How
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can the dream survive murder our children?
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Wow. Thank you. Thank you for sharing your story again, Alvida. Um
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you're welcome. Oh, I was going to say, so speaking of
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like um women who have had abortions and then had, you know, miscarriages and and
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different things like that and the healing process, what would you say is like the most impactful thing for
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healing in that circumstance?
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Hope healing and forgiveness in Jesus Christ. Get to know Jesus. get to find
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people who will love Jesus, love you, who support you and just, you know, it
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helps our lives when we get to leave that and understand. And even for those who say, and I've got women really, hey,
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what's the best thing I ever had? I'm happy with my life. Uh, one what an
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opportunity for that one, though. Sometimes we can feel that way. Many years later, there was a lady, I forget
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how old she was in the nurs. And she was there. She was in a fetal
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position and nothing could help her. Nothing could reach her. And a nurse
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whispered in her ear one day, "Dear, have you ever had an abortion?" And the
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lady begin to tremble and shake and begin to see uncontrollably. And all of this
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began to comfort her and read scriptures to her and tell her how much Jesus loves
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her. The woman came out of the seat of position. You begin to be able to communicate and
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she lived a while longer uh with a very peaceful life where she
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passed away. So, you know, however we feel about our life
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experiences, compassion is the best thing. The love of Christ
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and compassion without people one time I
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came up to me, well, you're a hypocrite. I said, I probably am, but why do you say that? And she said, you had a voice.
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She said, "You don't want to have other people to have a voices." I said, "Well, ma'am, yes, I did." Well,
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that was your right. It was. I said, "But ma'am, the reason I say we should have
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abortion. It is your right to do it, but it's linked to breast cancer, cervical
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cancer, alcoholism, promiscuity, heartbreak." You know, I started saying all the things that are
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attached to it and reality, you know, went on. No, it's not. You're lying. I
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said, man, you just we did have the internet. You could have
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I said just check for yourself, ma'am. I'm
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no. And so the woman took and she was still
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a little upset but she found out that I was telling the truth.
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One thing that women you know and I had a friend of breath cancer as they have
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to have sex but uh what happens when women find out
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that breast cancer and cancer are connected to those abortions and those pills and the shots.
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And so I I said to somebody one time, uh, they wanted me to wear the pink
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little bow for breast cancer prevention. And I said, "I'm so sorry, but I would
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wear it if y'all would put everything on there that's associated with it, but you
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won't do that." And so I say that all sometimes now. And
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uh I I I'm blessed to attend a church where the founding first lady and the
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current first lady will let me talk about these subjects at church, you know, and answer the same kind of
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questions I'm asking. But sometimes people don't want to talk about it. They want to look the other way. Especially
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pastors, whether it's men or women in leadership in church, they don't want to talk about that at church because then
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people won't come to church, won't pay their ties, and do don't want to hear it. So, they won't help. But the best
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way you can help anyone who is considering abortion or who has experienced it, males and females and
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grandparents community, is to first assure them that God loves them.
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I believe I'll see my children in heaven. I really do. And that there's hope and healing.
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And then kind of encourage the rest, you know, the girls who have not been pregnant, you know, even rap
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is still not got the breast cancer and abortion abortion. I mean, depression
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and alcohol is not safe adoption is an option. It needs to be safe adoption,
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not in a system of children.
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But people need help. We believe the Lord.
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So Avita, we've got another uh question or comment for you to respond to. Um uh
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we have a comment of many um of the youngest generation, the Gen Z girls, um
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prefer to find answers on Google or or AI more so than talking to a live
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person. Um and it seems to be because they don't want to experience emotions
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or they want to have that separation from a live person. What are your thoughts on on that?
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I don't fear AI artificial intelligence think AI in the Bible stronghold or town
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or something terror people and at first because they wouldn't listen to God the
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AI defeated them they went back they prayed and God told them what to do and they defeated AI AI is a tool
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it is not the final answer I have told people myself I said hey do y'all see
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what's whatever. But I always back up what I'm saying with the word of God, the
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infallible word of God. So what we do is to overcome AI with
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good overcome any evil that AI might do with good. God is so make sure that our
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presence is there out in there. You know too many grandparents I have talked to
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grandparents especially my grandchildren will talk to me oh they don't like me they hate me this they think this I said
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because you want to take their devices from them what I do I just say do this
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for me let's have your device lay it there turn it down face down don't turn all and
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then I'll have a little mini Bible say talking about the Bible whatever when
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they pick it back up because those for they look for what we say and do and
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then that's what the devices pull up and when they pick the phone back up or the device back up there have some truth and
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light there in front of so and I'll just say and I do it myself lately I start
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putting my phone do not disturb at a certain time and because I used to be waking up in
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the middle of the night and texting people and doing all that and I don't do it anymore
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so rather than to take the devices or tell them don't look for don't look on
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on AI because they're going to do that. But have real truth and real information
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available and make our our presence known as easy access.
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That's good. So, we have another uh comment that came in. Um, so with
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Rachel's Vineyard offering healing for those who have been hurt by abortion, what are your thoughts on postabortion
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healing and and groups like Rachel's Vineyard?
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I have had postabortion healing myself and it's very effective through Rachel Vard and some other program. So healing
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is necessary and useful and helpful. I highly recommend it.
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That's good. Um, yeah, for those who are here, if you have any questions, please,
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uh, post them in the Q&A. Um, but I think we're caught up on all of the all the questions. Um, what do you what do
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you currently uh what what's your current activity look like, uh, Vita, when it comes to working in this space?
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What, you know, which which areas are you currently involved?
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I fully support pregnancy and my god king has a center called auntie's house
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one of those that I support but I support several and I do
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workshops or panels like zoom like we're doing today and I want to
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get the mom the grandparents community the church and get everyone engaged
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And I like to say, you know, when somebody want to commit suicide, for example, you say you have a choice, but
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it's on you. No, you don't really don't have a choice. That's not an option. Let's find something that work that won't work. He and I said, you have a
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choice, an option, but that's not a good one. That one won't work. Let's stretch that one off the table. So, uh, don't
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keep reminding people that they have a choice. feel like you're there to help and take that one off the table as soon
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as possible. That's good. Uh looks like Laura has a
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her hand raised. Laura, do you have a question? Maybe you can unmute and go ahead and ask your question.
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Hi there. Um I I know at the beginning of the conversation you briefly mentioned that um you're um somehow
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connected with the Department of Agriculture and that there might be funding out there available for
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Christian organizations. Um what type of government funding do you think we
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should look for? Um I am a pregnancy center director, but I'm also the director of the Booker T. Washington
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Community Center where our um pregnancy center is housed. Um and so if there's
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any type of funding out there that doesn't have a ton of restrictions, I would be interested in learning about
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that. Well, every uh department has a faith
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center. All all of us don't have directors yet, I don't necessarily
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think, but every government department has a faith center. And in those centers, there are opportunities for
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life skills training, life skills training.
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That's very necessary in the pregnancy careers as well while helping the mother
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and also the father. They're inviting them in now to see what their role is, grandparents, everyone. uh how to
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finish school, GED or finish school, how to balance the checkbook, how to eat nutritionally, all those kinds of things
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are all those kinds of services are available at your center and they are
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becoming more and more available without restrictions and so please go and explore and look
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for those kinds of activities in all the department. Okay. Well, that's great to know. um our
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our pregnancy center, we have written curriculum that's um life skills and
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risk avoidance curriculum for middle school age and up. So that's wonderful to hear
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and even with the department of agriculture, our 4 and um future departments of America and all that
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because I I'll propose this to you. If if young people have confidence, they
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feel that they're loved, that they're beautiful, that they have opportunities ahead of them, and uh don't be worrying
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about relationships and boyfriend, girlfriend, and all that right now. You will do that. Take your time, but let's
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get you solid right now. And uh get them in those kinds of programs and then you
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still would have that kind of information available um to them at those centers as well. And that would go
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a long way in helping us not to become engaged in those behaviors that are harmful.
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Right. That was our thoughts behind it as well. Get to the root of the issue the best we can.
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Yes. I'm gonna have to hang up in a couple of minutes. I do apologize because I did
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start late because I couldn't get the work. Uh but because we have maybe a final question. Um,
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you know, and wherever I go, I I was over in our media and I was small
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children. I saw this little remembering that reminding them that
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they are life. They have they have promise ahead and all of this trauma.
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They're so sorry for it. Uh, but we can move along together and make it work
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out. Um, yeah. So, oh, uh, we have some
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applause. Um, so I guess in our, oh, wait, a hand up or no, is it hand or an
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applause? Let's see here. One second. Let me see if I can um
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with the question. We're caught up. Okay, I think we're caught up. Uh I
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think as our final question would be um Alvida would you um close out this
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webinar with a prayer as we join in and pray with you.
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Father in the name of Jesus we are very grateful that uh things have happened
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like Roie Wade is no longer are lost that uh faith is now available in every
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department or by government the church has survived CO and the doors
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are opening in all these things Lord and then even with the uh assassination of
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Charlie for example very very terrorizing But they're on the whole earth is still
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filled with your glory. The pregnancy care center leader who are on the line
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today that they'll be strengthened with might in their inner man that the eyes of their understanding will be
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continually enlightened. That they can know and share with others the hope of
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the calling in the gospel of Jesus Christ. That we are blessed according to Psalms 103 led according to Psalms 23.
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protected according to Psalms 91. The blood of Jesus, the blessing of Abraham
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be upon us and be glorified, heavenly father, in the name of Jesus, by the
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power of your holy spirit. Amen. Amen.
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Thank you so much, Avita, for being here. We'll let you go. Uh I really appreciate you being here and sharing
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your thoughts and ideas and and and praying and uh just yeah, encouraging us.
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Well, you be encouraged. I want to continue to hear good things from you. God bless you. God bless you, too. Thank you.
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Awesome. All right. Thank you everybody for being here. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Is going to be with um Lori Deville and that will be um the first Wednesday in
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November, which is um I think the 5th maybe.
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So, next month. Awesome. Sounds good. All right. Thank you everybody for being here.
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Have a blessed day. Thanks. Bye. Bye.
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