SPEAKER_02 0:04

So Myra, I'm excited to have you on the ProLife Team podcast. Would you introduce yourself as if you are talking to a room of pregnancy clinic uh directors?

SPEAKER_03 0:17

Sure, yes. Uh my name is Mayra Rodriguez. I'm a former Plan Parenthood director, also known as the Plan Parenthood whistleblower. And that is after winning a case against Plan Parenthood in my, I will call home state, because I've been there for 30 years in Phoenix, Arizona. I'm from Mexico. I was born and raised in Mexico, moved to this beautiful country when I was about 18 years of age. I became a U.S. citizen last year, so this will be my very first year voting. I can wait to exercise my right to vote and vote for the right person, right? And that's who I am. Today I'm a pro-life advocate. I would like to say advocate because advocate for the unborn and women, not only as an activist, you know, marching and making my voice heard, but also working alongside with pregnancy centers, uh, crisis hotlines. I also work with, and then they were known as a global outreach coordinator, which is Abby Johnson's ministry. We're trying to get that ministry globally to help other abortion workers leave the industry and find healing.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

Awesome. So tell us the story of well, tell us your story of the whistleblowing experience or um, you know, working at Planned Parenthood or in an abortion clinic, and then the exit that took place. Tell us about that.

SPEAKER_03 1:42

Yeah. Um I mean, we we don't have that much time, but I will make it as short as possible. You know, Latinos, we have a hard time making short stories, and you know, we always make long stories. But I do have a book coming up, so I know many people will have questions, and I'm hoping that book will clarify a lot. So, like many people that you have heard before, they start working for Planned Parenthood thinking they're helping women, right? That's not different to me. I grew up in Mexico City, I grew up in a hospital setting. My mother was a social worker, so uh I got to see a lot of the crisis situations that women um face during low income or abuse, stuff like that, right? That's how I grew up. So when I moved to this country with a medical lab technician diploma, and my friends like, hey, why don't you work for Planned Parenthood? Uh they're hiring bilinguals, uh, they help women. That's all I knew about Plant Parenthood, that they help women. I'm gonna be honest with you, I knew very little about abortion. Because in my home country back then, abortion was illegal still. It wasn't something you talk about every day, right? Even though I just told you that my mother worked in a hospital, it's not that you hear that women were having abortions, right? The other side likes to say that women were having abortions in back alley, you know, like if they were going into a secret alley, and but you don't hear that, right? So I'm like, okay, I want to help women, right? And I'm bilingual, so they want to help my community, right? Because if they speak, if they need people that speak Spanish, it's because they have an interest of helping my people, right? So jackpot, they want me and they want to help my people. So I started working for them um in the year to um about the year 2000. Uh, you know, I remember something very particular, and that was that back then uh I had no interest in politics. So it surprised me that when I got a job with them, the the atmosphere felt heavy because Al Gore had lost. And I didn't know what that meant, right? I didn't know why a medical facility was so worried about elections, right? I learned that throughout my years working for them, uh, and what that meant. So at the beginning, I started working in centers that were preventive care, right? Which is what most people praise about Plant Parenthood, right? Even myself. I remember arguing with people on the sidewalk, people on the streets, friends, people uh at my kids' school, you know, plant parenthood does so much than abortions. For example, I, what I work at, we prevent this, we prevent cancer, we prevent uh pregnancies, uh, we help people, we prevent STDs, right? And I was ready to give them the long list of services that we offer at these Title X centers, right? And then on top of it, I remember feeling so proud. I said, and it's free. We do all this for free, right? Like if we're donating that money, right? Little did I know that it was our own tax money and we were all paying for all this, right? It took years for me to understand how Plum Park could work. But I'm gonna tell you that I was a very devoted, very dedicated employee. Not only because I was grateful for the opportunity, right? This is an immigrant, right? This is the the immigrant story. Like, this is the what they call the American dream, right? You go to another country and aspire to work in the medical field since I was a little kid. So you can imagine getting to this country, being able to work in the medical field like I had dreamed, and helping women and helping my community. It was a dream come true. And it's what people would refer to in other countries as the American dream, right? I didn't have to settle and working at a restaurant or being a babysitter. Not that there's nothing wrong with that, but obviously I wanted more, right? I wanted to be in the medical field. It's something that passion me and helping women, something that had always moved me. So move the years forward. I started being such a good employer, I just told you, dedicated, loyal to them. I became the assistant director, then I became the training coordinator, meaning I will train everyone in the facilities. And then I became the director of the first facility in North Phoenix, Arizona, still a Title X center. And they asked me to direct the second clinic, which is Flagstaff, Arizona, another Title X center, but that does abortion by appeal once a week. And then in the year 2016, they gave me the Employee of the Year Award. Right? Um, it took me by surprise, to be honest with you, because I didn't expect that over 100 employees voted for me as employee of the year. And with that award, it came a promotion that I was not expecting, to be honest with you. They asked me to direct the biggest abortion facility in the state of Arizona, which is Glenda. Why do I say the biggest? That location opens five to six days a week just to do abortions when I took cover. I'm gonna confess that when they offered me the job, I said, no, thank you. You know, I have been working for them for so many years on the other side, and I was like, why would I need that, right? I have heard how hard it was to work at those facilities. I have heard that the employee retention was hard. I have heard that the abortionists were hard to deal with. I have heard that patients were hard to deal with. I have heard all these um problems, right? Problems about those centers, right? Like employees were unhappy and patients were unhappy. Of course, no one wants to be there. I I always tell the people I'm speaking on on events that the only people that want to be there are the people on the sidewalk brain, right? No one else wants to be there. Uh so I mean, after basically, I'm not gonna say twisting my arm because they were like, Well, Myra, when I said to my supervisor, you know what, no, thank you, I'm not interested, I'm fine with what I am. He responded to me, well, Trump will take over because he had just won on 2016. Remember, by now I knew what it meant to have a Republican president instead of a Democrat, right? I knew it meant the funding, I knew it meant problems for Plant Parenthood not getting their way. And I was told, so Trump will take over and he will defund Plan Parenthood. And we cannot guarantee that we will keep the Title Ten cents open, which is what I was running, right? Title Ten Centers. So basically they said, you may not have a job when that happens. I cannot say that I will have a spot safe for you if you don't take this job right now. So my boss made it sound that he was doing me a favor, right? Saving me in that spot before everything came back down and I will lose my job. At that moment, I'm gonna tell you that many people may not understand. Well, like, well, you should not have accepted, right? But in my situation, it's up, it was a bit harder. I was also an undocumented person in this country back then. They knew that. They hired me knowing that I was undocumented, and that's how I worked for them for 17 years. So it wasn't as easy for me as uh, oh, okay, I'm just gonna go get another job, right? I had a job security, I have benefits, I had everything that an immigrant would only dream to have, right? So I decided to take on the job. You know, there comes some there comes a moment on my life that I was like, why did I take that job, right? But now I am grateful because I am who I am and I am where I am today because I took that job. I got to see what everyone was talking about on the sidewalk. I got to see what the prolifers had been saying all along, which to me I'm grateful because I got to see the light. Um, I know that it it may sound to some people having on the pro life movement as hard to believe that you needed to see to believe, but I mean it is biblical, right? That we need to see to believe. Some of us are that stubborn, some of us are that blind, and we need to see to believe. But what did I see? Well, at first when I took over, I saw what I just told you about. I saw that the employees didn't want to be there. It was like a heavy place to work at, you know, like when you enter a place and you feel this darkness, right? Employees were in a bad mood. Obviously, the women that come there are not happy. No matter what anyone says, no matter what TikToks you have seen of women jumping, being happy and having abortions, that is not true. Not once. In my time working for Plant Parenthood, did I see a woman walking into the doors jumping of happiness for having an abortion? And certainly I never saw a woman leave that building happy, right? So women are not happy to be there. The abortionists, they think they're God. Obviously. I mean, they pick and choose who dies and who lives, right? So obviously they think they are God. So that was something very hard to swallow at first, right? But here I am trying to do the best out of me. I just told you I was a loyal employee. I was very dedicated to this mission, and I was like, it was time for me to pay back all the years they have given me as an employee, right? All those, all those times that I've been with Plant Parenthood. But then I start seeing the reality of abortion. What do I mean by that? I start seeing that abortion is harming women. I got to see perforations not once a month. You know, they like to say it on their statistics that about 28% of women get perforated. I can tell you that I witnessed that daily a woman left perforated. Daily. If not one that we noticed. Just keeping keep in mind that. I'm talking about the ones we knew that got perforated. Many women get perforated, they didn't even know about it, right? I got to see the complications. Then I got to see the falsifying of patient charge, the complications that went unreported, the abortion is breaking rules and regulations in our state to protect women. I got to see the basically the corruption, how the inspector, the healthcare inspector, will schedule the inspection instead of showing up surprisingly, like they will do in a restaurant, like they would do in a nail salon, right? She will call and be like, I'm gonna be there on Thursday between 9 and 12. Will that work for you? Can you believe that? Like, will that work for me? And then I will know what they were looking for, and I will be told what they were gonna need for them to review, right? So then it gives you time to prepare, right? It gives you time to get ready for this inspection. So I start calling out all these uh irregularities. I start uh telling my supervisors what was going on. I was very outspoken about the abortionist. Um, I remember a few staff members saying, Myra, you should not talk about him, they will fire you. That's what happens when you raise your voice, right? I was like, I don't care, I'm not gonna stay quiet. Here I am thinking that Plan Park will thank me for letting them know that an abortionist is harming women, right? That was what Naive Meyer thought. That my employer cared no matter what about women. So when I mentioned that there was an abortionist not doing their job properly, they will do something about it. But that's not what happened. What happened was that I was let go. Meaning that uh right after I brought up a case of a for a 19-year-old girl that had 40 weeks pregnant with the abortionist had forgotten the baby head inside. And just so um, I'm not sure if you're okay with me describing a bit of the scene for your audience, but I I find it uh uh a bit necessary sometimes for people to understand that an abortion after 12 weeks is through the dismemberment of the babies, feeling pain. Meaning they rip apart their limbs, their legs, their arms, their torso, and then the assistant, the me the medical assistant that is with him, takes all these baby puzzles, right? There's another way to call that the body part, and take them to a room where they put this puzzle together, making sure they have two legs, a torso, two arms, a head. In this scenario, she couldn't find the head, and she had gone and looked everywhere. So she told me about it. She went into my office and said, Myra, I already told him he's missing the head, he's not listening, I don't know what else to do. I go back with her and we tell him, Hey, if you're missing the head, he was already moving on to the next room. I mean, he had to see a patient every 15 minutes. This is a patient's 40 to 45 patients a day. And we argue about it. He didn't want to go back. He had already put on the chart that abortion had been done without complications. He had inserted an IUD, which is uh intra-uttering device to prevent pregnancies, right? And we argue about it, and finally he admitted repeat the ultrasound. The 19-year-old girl um had two aspirations on to her. They scraped her twice. He didn't mention anything to her, neither did this nurse next to her mention anything. I even recalled, I stayed in the room to make sure everything was done. And I even recall uh when the patient was kind of waking up, I thought you were done, she said. And then they just push more medication on her without giving her an explanation of what had happened. He didn't report it on the chart. Even though he had used two IUDs, he was refusing to report that. And I kept pushing him because I was like, I'm gonna miss an IUD on my inventory. That's like a thousand dollar device. I need you to put in there what happened. So then I'm accounted for that IUD. He still refused, so I had to make a note about the IUD. I left, I called my supervisor and said, That's it, I'm done. That's it. I I cannot be part of this. I will do whatever I need to do for him to stop harming women. And also, what happened to me that they was when I asked him about the baby head, he said, Go find it in the trash. Like if to him was just a piece of trash, like it to him was just a a cotton ball that he had lost. And believe it or not, you work in that industry for many years, you hear what they do to the babies, you hear that they go on seeplock bags. It's a whole different thing when you see it. It's a whole different thing when you're there watching the babies go on these plastic Siploc bags in a red bag, designing up for this disposal container of hazardous materials that will go and get cremated along with all the medical waste from other hospitals. That's different. I mean that that takes you to a whole new level of understanding what you're doing, right? To another human being. And you start, let's say it humanizing these babies, right? Because now they don't look like it don't look that you have hurt what they do. It's like you see these baby parts, you see these baby heads. Those are images very hard to take away from your mind, right? So that uh you stop remembering those images, like they're there, right? Those images are still there. And so I left, I called my supervisor, and I was like, okay, this is it, right? They're gonna do something about it because this was beyond the limit of what anyone can do. But nope, what happened was that a few days later they fired me, accusing me of having narcotics on my desk while I was gone. So it's like you have your office and you they have sent you to another office, and they're like, hey, you know, while you were gone last week, we found narcotics on your desk. You're fired. I knew what it meant, right? I knew that they wanted to accuse me of something that serious so that I wouldn't pursue anything else against them, right? So at that moment, um I left and I'm like, what am I gonna do? What am I gonna do? Uh what am I gonna do about it? It's just me, right? Just an immigrant against this uh multinational, multi-billion dollar corporation. What can I do against them? I'm not gonna lie, I felt lost, I felt angry, I felt disappointed, right? Usually people ask me to try to express how I felt, and I tell them, can you imagine that you have been married for 17 years? Everyone's been telling you that they're cheating on you, you keep denying it, and you're like, no, no, no, the sweet expression on air, you're lying, you're lying, that's not true, that's not true, right? And one day you realize that they were telling you the truth. That it is true that uh everything they've been saying about it, right? That in fact uh they're hiding things. In fact, they don't care for women, right? They didn't care about me as an employee, 17 years with them, and they didn't care. They didn't care about the patients, right? I was so naive that I'm like, I was sure they were gonna do something about it. That's what I thought. People like, what were you thinking? Well, that they will do something about it, right? That they care for women, right? I work for these people because I care for women, therefore they care for women. And but no, the reality was that everyone was saying the right thing about Plant Parenthood, and I was just too naive to see it. Sometimes I wonder if I was too naive to see it because it was convenient to me, right? Which is what happens when the truth is inconvenient because it doesn't play along with your your life plans, right? Then you don't get to see it, correct? So uh I think I was comfortable with my job, right? I had my my benefits, right? In my head, I kept making excuses, right? Which is what most people on the other side do, right? They keep making excuses. It's the selfish side. I will say it is the selfish side until you don't see what is going on. It's okay, you know, it's fine, it's normal, it's not that bad, right? So, anyways, we started a lawsuit against them, thanks to the help of all the people on the sidewalk. I found my lawyer, Tim Casey. We started a lawsuit against them in Maricopa County in this um city of Phoenix, which we gratefully won as a Whistleblower Protection Act. So it was a bronchal termination lawsuit under the Whistleblower Protection Act, and that was in 2019. Um, many people didn't think that it was gonna be possible or doable because it is Plan Parringhood, and everybody's like, no one reads Plan Parringhood in court. So I am grateful to say that we did, right? That the truth prevailed. Um, that God helped me, and um, and I believe that uh he was behind everything, you know. I mean, he's behind the truth. So that's how we got here.

SPEAKER_02 20:05

Wow. Well, thank you so much for sharing your story and yeah, just going into such good detail about it. That was really such an awesome journey you've been on. Um where so tell me where um where are you at today? Like what are what's your role today look like um in 20 2024?

SPEAKER_03 20:29

Are you ready? Because I have so many roles. I work too many happy today. I mean, once you're in this movement, it's not like you can just do one thing, right? So let me just tell you that I started speaking up. Um, like, you know, I would start traveling, going and telling my story, right? Uh being keynote speaker in many events, covering March for Life. Like I covered the March for Life in Mexico City, right? I started going to Colombia, taking my testimony across the globe, right? And while I was doing that, I realized what was happening in my home state, right? Which it was like we were going to the other side, right? I have left a state that was very conservative, and all of a sudden we're looking at a very liberal state, uh, many new laws for abortion, you know, like uh right now. So I work with um And Then They Were Numb, which is Abby Johnson's Ministry as their global outreach coordinator. I also work as a volunteer for Love Line, which is a crisis hotline that helps women in crisis and partners with pregnancy centers and other resources. I also um started uh well uh partnered with Moms for America to start the Arizona Moms for America. I'm the state director. But why did I do that? Well, because I realized that our fight against abortion doesn't stop with just um being at March or on the sidewalk, right? It has to do also with the way people are voting, right? The the the politicians were electing. uh educating people about valid measures coming up on on many of our states, right? I I was um honored to be at the Dubbs versus Jackson with um attorney general uh uh from that state that brought up the case in the Supreme Court back in June and we were there outside of the Supreme Court at the rally and overturning Robbie Wade was great, right? But I don't think we were quite ready for the fights that we have in our states, right? I think that um unfortunately the proliferum was not ready to take on they didn't expect what will happen in conservative states like Ohio, right? Like like um what's happening in Michigan, what will happen in Missouri, what's happening in Arizona, right? An evil ballot measure. And it to be especially educating people about this ballot measure in the state of Arizona is very important. Believe it or not, once you read what the what that law will look like which by the way their goal is to make um killing a baby a constitutional right on every state. But I know that we know that they won't stop there. After they're done doing that they will go after our pregnancy centers. It will start closing pregnancy centers why because to the abortion industry and I have witnessed this anyone against them needs to be removed right anyone that will damage their business needs to be gone. So pregnancy centers do a great job we outnumber them you know we have for every abortion facility in our country we have four pregnancy centers at least so they're all privately funded from people's um donations the government does not help them at all and that's why they do it they know they're powerful. So I'm working really hard with all of people in the Arizona team um Arizona Right to Life Projecto por la familia working on the Latino community raising awareness you know and covering a bunch of other topics uh on it very very active with the Latino community very active with the Catholic vote making sure that people understand that I I didn't understand this right for many years I was Catholic working for Planned Parenthood and thinking that I was doing the right thing because as long as I don't have abortion I should be fine right educating people that's not what it means to be Catholic or Christian. What it means to be Catholic or Christian is to really follow Jesus and the values that he has set for us right that I mean it it's not a guessing game we know what he specs of us so that's what we're doing today.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

Wow you are you do have a lot of hats and you said you have a lot of hats that was very true um that's a lot um so tell me um what is something from your story from your journey that most people don't know um that that essentially that most pregnancy clinic directors may not know what's something that would be really helpful for them to understand or know that's not commonly known that it's not commonly known wow I mean I think that um one of the things that uh people need to understand is that we tend to make every woman that takes an abortion as a victim, right?

SPEAKER_03 25:34

Like they're in this vulnerable state and yes the majority of them maybe but but not all of them right I have seen a lot of women being selfish right I remember a woman that literally uh came in there and her whole reason for having the abortion was because she had just had plastic surgery. Right the other side makes it seem that uh abortion is necessary to save a woman's life uh to save uh a woman from the heartache of having a sick baby right of to uh oh save that baby from a life of a miserable uh miserable sickness right but the reality is that I will say about 40% of women or more don't have any economic problems they have support at home and simply they just don't want to have the baby right like it's an inconvenience to them to their selfish uh freedom let's call it somewhere right that is something that I have seen on the pro life moment that a lot of people tend to I'm not sure if they don't um it's not that they don't see it it's that maybe a lot of the people that deal with the women that reach out to pregnancy centers are people that were willing to save their babies right but I think that the women um that we have seen that no matter what you tell them still walk into the doors are women that that really don't have any big problems to have the baby. They just don't want to right I remember I had a teenager that her whole point was to get pregnant to have an audition for MTV show Tina pregnant and when they didn't select her then she no longer wanted the baby. So and I could tell your own stories and stories of women that their excuses were that right I mean there's darkness right people are selfish because there it there's darkness we're not that close to Jesus. I was selfish myself I just said that but I think that is something that a lot of people they tend to make it seem that um women need abortion because they're dying if they don't have it right what we need is more responsible men and women right abortion should not be abortion should should not happen because there should be prevention and abstinence.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

Yeah that makes a lot of sense wow that's and that's yeah very often we always think of the well and at some levels you know the woman who's selfish or who ha you know doesn't have a medical reason or doesn't you know it's essentially it's for personal desires or for well it could yeah for a TV audition.

SPEAKER_03 28:30

Wow it just feels like or a plastic journal like that lady or a plastic was that I just spent $2,000 I'm not gonna waste that money can you believe that yeah it just feels like they yeah I it just feels sad.

SPEAKER_02 28:45

Uh that that's some what yeah someone's reason. Um boy they need yeah that person every everyone there needs Jesus that's for sure everyone there needs responsibility needs just a better understanding of really like what's what's true and good. And that's a lot it is so so along this journey that you've had you know both in the whistleblowing as well as where you are now what what tell me a story where you've seen God's fingerprints where have you seen God showing up along your your journey.

SPEAKER_03 29:24

Oh my God Oh my God. Yeah um I mean the miracles that he has done with me in my life I I I can even um I think that you know the other day I was uh at an event uh we were outside the the courthouse here in Phoenix Arizona because they were starting to hear um about uh going back to the previous law before Robbie Wade and whatnot, right? The hearings had started about that and there was a young girl then I was with Students for Life I believe and she said you came to speak at um at my youth group at Flagstaff in Flagstaff Arizona at her Newman Center and you encouraged me to be part of this movement you know to do something about it. So when you hear that you know when you hear that someone got encouraged to be on the sidewalk or be part of this or be more active because they heard your story that moves something right when someone says you know um I mean I am grateful that because I had been on the other side then when people you know whether it's online or in person they start arguing about me with abortion you know and once I tell them you know I was on the other side this happened you know then they back up and then they understand that something very dark it's happening in there right also I mean to hear that a woman didn't enter a center to hear that a woman didn't enter center when they told her about my story here in Arizona right like when they show up to the Glendale facility and they're like hey you know that the former manager there left because I mean this happened and she won a case against them and then people turned back that's God I believe that on all those scenarios that I just mentioned to you that has been God right I mean what else can I tell you that it is God who has taken me wherever I have gone I mean I'm so grateful I've been to Hawaii on a speaking tour on many islands right speaking of and telling my story and just to know that after I spoke at a couple church events in Hawaii more people sign up to go pray on the sidewalk. That's God right because he brings the people that need to hear my story and and be able to move them and change the hearts of mind. So like I said I mean there's so many so many scenarios that I can tell you what I saw God I mean just the fact that I'm here and I have for been forgiven and redeemed it's him you know it it it's him wow thank you for sharing that Myra um what's something that you would consider encouraging the pregnancy clinic directors that you would like to share oh well to never give up right I know sometimes it's very hard for them especially when there are pregnancy centers that are near uh an abortion facility right or an abortionist and they see so many women going in there right but the pregnancy centers give so much joy I can tell you from working on the other side um that you enter those abortion facilities and I just told you it feels darkness it it feels heavy right but when you enter an ab a pregnancy resource center you see light you see phone colors you see baby pictures I remember going to a pregnancy center and telling them uh the staff had their baby pictures there on their desk and telling them I was not allowed to do that. I was not allowed to have the pictures of my children on my desk. My staff was not allowed to have picture of their children on their computer. You know many people sometimes bring a picture of their family and have it in their computer screen and the staff were not allowed to do that. I remember that we were not even allowed to wear scrubs that had anything to do with children or even warrant they use baby. Right? It was forbidden to say baby. You have to call it fetuses right and um you could get fired from saying the word baby in that place which is so sad right so to encourage them and tell them that we're gonna fight for them we know that their goal is to close pregnancy centers but we're not gonna let them we're gonna continue fighting I mean California is an example of that many many politicians have tried to pass legislation closing pregnancy centers and and the prolife movement has been so strong right that they have not allowed them. So um we are here for them right uh we're here to support what they're doing at the pregnancy resource centers and we're not gonna let them touch them that's good yeah that's an encouraging and really good insight into the battle that we're in um so Myra what are your top prayer quests for well what what are your current top prayer requests regarding abortion and and this work what I'm so sorry you could have a little oh your sorry your top uh prayer requests like what are you praying for right oh my top prayer requests yeah yeah well you know that people open their eyes and don't sign those valid measures that are coming up in our states um but that we are able to change hearts and minds that even if abortion is not illegal that people see that they don't need abortion right that uh abortion is not necessary that uh that people on the sidewalk don't give up right I pray that more people show up because I know what it means I know not only what it means for the women that are seeking abortion but I know what it means to the employees to to the the workers there. When they see people on the sidewalk believe it or not it's kind of encouraging I remember that yeah there was a times that you were like why are they here? Like those people are crazy right then I'm gonna tell you that we will look at them on the hot weather in Phoenix Arizona you know we reach 118 degrees 116 degrees people are there in the sidewalk you're like that's dedication right like you have to give up credit for that the dedication whether it rains or shines snowing in super cool weather I mean look at in DC we were all marching while it was snowing 10 15 degree weather and it's the dedication of the pro-life movement I pray that the people don't give up right because I know that when we start giving up it's when we will lose this battle so that's what I pray for.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

Oh that's really good. Well Myra I really enjoyed having you on this podcast or do you have any final thoughts and then would you close us in a prayer with you and hoping that those who listen will join us join us in that prayer.

SPEAKER_03 36:18

Sure sure well I think that um people need to realize that yes we're here to save babies and their moms but also to save the souls of many abortion workers right so when you pray for in the sidewalk pray for the born pray for that mom and pray for that abortionist because only through the through the power of prayer we can change their hearts about what they're doing right and and we strongly believe that if no one wants to do abortions then there will be none right so I mean okay let's do the prayer in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit God we ask you to please help us please help us end abortion please help us get get to the heart of all those women of all those abortion workers and for them to see the light that women would no longer seek to terminate their pregnancy that women understand that there's not a right to kill a baby the human right the basic right of a human being is to be born we thank you for everything that you have given us we thank you for your for your love for the courage that you have provided the pro life movement for all the young people that you're waking up constantly and every day we thank you for all the support that we get every day from many people across the globe not only in our beautiful home state but also I'm in this beautiful country and many people around the globe that work together tirelessly to stop abortion.

SPEAKER_02 37:56

I know that you will help us get it done I know with you and in your mercy we will one day be able to to stop this abortion industry and make sure every baby is protected from womb to do thank you and amen amen wow thank you myra for being on this podcast I really really enjoyed hearing your story and just I I think I think your your your story is encouraging and an example of yeah God's grace and uh his work.

SPEAKER_03 38:31

Thank you so much for having me I appreciate your time I hope you have a nice time with your family the rest of the night and thank you for doing this I truly appreciate it.